What I love is that Eve is a middle-aged lady who walks around with a handbag,” she mused. “And Villanelle is a 20-year-old, beautiful, strong, all these things. You can feel the things, psychologically, that someone in her middle age is trying to grapple with. How do I find a new sense of power? Villanelle sees something in Eve which is very empowering — something that Eve does not see in herself and that’s something that other people don’t see.